The "disastrous and hated of the God mob…" replies to Kostas Zouraris - Article by N. G. Michaloliakos

27/08/2016 19:45

The “disastrous and hated of the God mob…” replies to Kostas Zouraris-Article of N. G. MIchaloliakos

At 4th of August 2016 a momentous vote took place in the Greek Parliament. The vast majority of the MPs voted for the construction of an islamic mosque in Athens! Only the 18 MPs of Golden Dawn and eight MPs of ANEL voted against, while the 9th, Mr Zouraris did not only voted for the construction, but also referred offensively to those who had the Honor to vote against. Of course, whom he addresses the ignorant, can express almost any opinion. We could reply in the parliament, but then again no one would be able to understand.

 

“In Constantinople there were two…islamic temples!”

 

I commence by reporting the first extract from the speech of Zouraris: “Should I say it, or should I not? A disastrous and hated of the God mob, who would probably wish to by Christian Orthodox, claim that they cannot bear with a temple for muslims… In Constantinople, during the grand years, existed two islamic temples…”

 

Having the honor to be one of this hated of the God and disastrous mob, like Mr. Zouraris characterized all those who voted against, I shall respond with historical and undisputable facts. Kedrinos, Theofanis, Constantine VII Porphyrogenitus and a book printed in 1924 constitute my sources. 

 

However, before my reply, another question also lies: How can Mr Zouraris coexist with the rest eight MPs, elected with ANEL, who also belong to this “disastrous mob”…Of course, it’s a rhetorical question, given the fact that the inventor of a disdainful vocabulary for those strongly adhered to the European Union, now supports the subordinated disposition of the government towards the E.U. 

 

Constantinople, August of 716 A.C.

 

Let’s return, though, to his perspective, that in Constantinople, during the glorious years there were two islamic temples, because of the…indulgence and the tolerance of our Empire, something like the current tolerance, a main characteristic of the globalization and the “solidarity”. The Historical Truth is radically different!

 

More precisely, going back in time, in August of 716 A.C., the Caliph Suleiman, aspiring to continue the plans of his precedent Moavia, about conquering Constantinople- a constant dream of the islamic world- sieges the City. That time, Leo III the Isaurian, the Emperor, crashes the Arabic forces. The siege, however, continues until 717 A.C., with the death of Caliph Suleiman and the rise on the throne of his successor. The last realizes that he cannot take over Constantinople, he ends the siege and proposes a peace treaty. One of the condition of this treat was the construction of a house of prayer and not a… mosque. The Emperor accepts the demands of the Arabs and begins the construction of “Magisdion”, in the periphery of the Praetorium, next to Hagia Sophia and Hagia Eirene. 

 

But what was that “Magisdion”? Christoforos A. Nomikos, in his book printed in 1924, called “The first mosque of Constantinople”, states: “Magisdion” is a word derived from the Arabian word “masjid”. According to Paspatis, “Magisdion” means a shelter, a house of prayer, like the Turkish “masjid”.

Magisdion turns to ashes.

 

Many years passed after the signature of that treaty, during the era of Leo III the Isaurian, who had the mentality of the Saracens according to the historian Theofanis, so this house of prayer turned to ashes. It is evident that the founding of this islamic building was not the result of a tolerant multicultural and multireligious society, but in reality it constituted a condition of a peace treaty, following the bloody siege from the Arabs. Well that was the first fairy tale that Mr. Zouraris shared in the Parliament.

 

The following years, during the era of the Macedonians, the Empire regains her glory, Arabs retreat, while Nikephoros II Phokas liberates Crete from the muslims. There is no report, for centuries, concerning the existence of islamic mosque in Constantinople. The next report arrives in the years of Constantine IX Monomachus, during the war against the Turks of the Caliph Selcuk Togroul. At 1018 A.C., Constantine IX Monomachus signes a peace treaty with the Turks, with the following condition: “If you desire piece, then build a mosque for my coreligionist.” That simply means that there was not an anterior islamic building. 

 

Yet again, Byzantium accepts the construction of an islamic temple, not because of the “tolerance” according to Zouraris, but as a condition of a peace treaty. It’s about a condition who lasted for a short period of time, since a new glorious era for the Empire emerged, the Comnenos Dynasty. 

The Emperor Isaac II and Saladin

 

This situation lasts until 1118, when the Emperor Isaac II, of the fatal Angelos dynasty, frightened by the Crusaders, tried to sign a treaty with the notorious rival of the Crusaders, Saladin. Saladin also demands the construction in Constantinople of a mosque, an evident that indicates the absence of an islamic temple.

 

After the Fall of Constantinople in 1204 A.C. from the Francs and her retrieval from the Empire of Nicaea, this islamic mosque probably existed. We refer to a decayed age, where there were even alliances with the Turks against other Christian People and our Empire was limited in a small area in Europe and Asia Minor.

 

Concerning the previous mosque, according to Christoforos Nomikos: “It seems there was not another mosque for the muslims in Constantinople. Those who claim that “Arab-Jami” was a mosque for the Saracens, built before the Chute, are wrong.  “Arab-Jami” is an old church, Christian, probably built in the IX century, who had been transformed into a mosque, after the chute of 1453. 

 

Briefly, these two mosques built in Constantinople because of the “tolerance”, according to Zouraris, existed only in his imagination!

 

Ancient Athens and … Osiris!

 

However, he did not confined to Byzantine Era. More or less, he claimed that in ancient Athens the ancient Greek religion coexisted with the dark cults of the East! More precisely, he stated in his speech in the Parliament: “Under the shades of Pallas Athena Parthenos, there were Osiris, Isis, dog or bison shaped gods, of all the kinds. There was freedom of religious observance, since Pallas Athena was tolerant…”

 

This is another misrepresentation of the History and the Truth. Pallas Athena showed no tolerance and those temples that have been discovered, age back in the Roman Period, a decayed period where there have been built, indeed, temples of any cult in ancient Greece. However, during the glorious years of Athens, that society was not “tolerant” and, in fact, had sentenced Socrates to death, because he introduced “new demons”, while Aeschylus died in exile, because he had been accused of revealing the secret rituals of the Eleusinian Mysteries. Well, Athens was not a multireligious society, according to the meaning of Zouraris.

 

Afterwards, Mr Zouraris wrongfully refers to the hostageship of our Ecumenical Patriarchate, believing that it exists under the protection of the muslims. He specifically reported: “Even the Old Church of Constantinople- of Istanbul, politically correctly- continues to exist under the islamic protection.”

 

He forgets the fact that solely a century ago there were thousand hundreds of Greek inhabitants and now less than three thousand, mainly elder, have left, while the Greek people in  Imbros and Tenedos were literally eradicated. These are the “profits” of the …muslim protection!

 

He ended his speech with the following advice: “So, get over with it and become Greeks again, or at least Christian Orthodox.”

 

We return the advice in full and we cannot but wonder about the entirely schizophrenic disposition of someone who can be both marxist and… Christian!

 

N. G. Michaloliakos 

Secretary General of People’s Association-Golden Dawn

 

 

 

 

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At 4th of August 2016 a momentous vote took place in the Greek Parliament. The vast majority of the MPs voted for the construction of an islamic mosque in Athens! Only the 18 MPs of Golden Dawn and eight MPs of ANEL voted against, while the 9th, Mr Zouraris did not only voted for the construction, but also referred offensively to those who had the Honor to vote against. Of course, whom he addresses the ignorant, can express almost any opinion. We could reply in the parliament, but then again no one would be able to understand.
“In Constantinople there were two…islamic temples!”
I commence by reporting the first extract from the speech of Zouraris: “Should I say it, or should I not? A disastrous and hated of the God mob, who would probably wish to by Christian Orthodox, claim that they cannot bear with a temple for muslims… In Constantinople, during the grand years, existed two islamic temples…”
Having the honor to be one of this hated of the God and disastrous mob, like Mr. Zouraris characterized all those who voted against, I shall respond with historical and undisputable facts. Kedrinos, Theofanis, Constantine VII Porphyrogenitus and a book printed in 1924 constitute my sources. 
However, before my reply, another question also lies: How can Mr Zouraris coexist with the rest eight MPs, elected with ANEL, who also belong to this “disastrous mob”…Of course, it’s a rhetorical question, given the fact that the inventor of a disdainful vocabulary for those strongly adhered to the European Union, now supports the subordinated disposition of the government towards the E.U. 
Constantinople, August of 716 A.C.
Let’s return, though, to his perspective, that in Constantinople, during the glorious years there were two islamic temples, because of the…indulgence and the tolerance of our Empire, something like the current tolerance, a main characteristic of the globalization and the “solidarity”. The Historical Truth is radically different!
More precisely, going back in time, in August of 716 A.C., the Caliph Suleiman, aspiring to continue the plans of his precedent Moavia, about conquering Constantinople- a constant dream of the islamic world- sieges the City. That time, Leo III the Isaurian, the Emperor, crashes the Arabic forces. The siege, however, continues until 717 A.C., with the death of Caliph Suleiman and the rise on the throne of his successor. The last realizes that he cannot take over Constantinople, he ends the siege and proposes a peace treaty. One of the condition of this treat was the construction of a house of prayer and not a… mosque. The Emperor accepts the demands of the Arabs and begins the construction of “Magisdion”, in the periphery of the Praetorium, next to Hagia Sophia and Hagia Eirene. 
But what was that “Magisdion”? Christoforos A. Nomikos, in his book printed in 1924, called “The first mosque of Constantinople”, states: “Magisdion” is a word derived from the Arabian word “masjid”. According to Paspatis, “Magisdion” means a shelter, a house of prayer, like the Turkish “masjid”.
Magisdion turns to ashes.
Many years passed after the signature of that treaty, during the era of Leo III the Isaurian, who had the mentality of the Saracens according to the historian Theofanis, so this house of prayer turned to ashes. It is evident that the founding of this islamic building was not the result of a tolerant multicultural and multireligious society, but in reality it constituted a condition of a peace treaty, following the bloody siege from the Arabs. Well that was the first fairy tale that Mr. Zouraris shared in the Parliament.
The following years, during the era of the Macedonians, the Empire regains her glory, Arabs retreat, while Nikephoros II Phokas liberates Crete from the muslims. There is no report, for centuries, concerning the existence of islamic mosque in Constantinople. The next report arrives in the years of Constantine IX Monomachus, during the war against the Turks of the Caliph Selcuk Togroul. At 1018 A.C., Constantine IX Monomachus signes a peace treaty with the Turks, with the following condition: “If you desire piece, then build a mosque for my coreligionist.” That simply means that there was not an anterior islamic building. 
Yet again, Byzantium accepts the construction of an islamic temple, not because of the “tolerance” according to Zouraris, but as a condition of a peace treaty. It’s about a condition who lasted for a short period of time, since a new glorious era for the Empire emerged, the Comnenos Dynasty. 
The Emperor Isaac II and Saladin
This situation lasts until 1118, when the Emperor Isaac II, of the fatal Angelos dynasty, frightened by the Crusaders, tried to sign a treaty with the notorious rival of the Crusaders, Saladin. Saladin also demands the construction in Constantinople of a mosque, an evident that indicates the absence of an islamic temple.
After the Fall of Constantinople in 1204 A.C. from the Francs and her retrieval from the Empire of Nicaea, this islamic mosque probably existed. We refer to a decayed age, where there were even alliances with the Turks against other Christian People and our Empire was limited in a small area in Europe and Asia Minor.
Concerning the previous mosque, according to Christoforos Nomikos: “It seems there was not another mosque for the muslims in Constantinople. Those who claim that “Arab-Jami” was a mosque for the Saracens, built before the Chute, are wrong.  “Arab-Jami” is an old church, Christian, probably built in the IX century, who had been transformed into a mosque, after the chute of 1453. 
Briefly, these two mosques built in Constantinople because of the “tolerance”, according to Zouraris, existed only in his imagination!
Ancient Athens and … Osiris!
However, he did not confined to Byzantine Era. More or less, he claimed that in ancient Athens the ancient Greek religion coexisted with the dark cults of the East! More precisely, he stated in his speech in the Parliament: “Under the shades of Pallas Athena Parthenos, there were Osiris, Isis, dog or bison shaped gods, of all the kinds. There was freedom of religious observance, since Pallas Athena was tolerant…”
This is another misrepresentation of the History and the Truth. Pallas Athena showed no tolerance and those temples that have been discovered, age back in the Roman Period, a decayed period where there have been built, indeed, temples of any cult in ancient Greece. However, during the glorious years of Athens, that society was not “tolerant” and, in fact, had sentenced Socrates to death, because he introduced “new demons”, while Aeschylus died in exile, because he had been accused of revealing the secret rituals of the Eleusinian Mysteries. Well, Athens was not a multireligious society, according to the meaning of Zouraris.
Afterwards, Mr Zouraris wrongfully refers to the hostageship of our Ecumenical Patriarchate, believing that it exists under the protection of the muslims. He specifically reported: “Even the Old Church of Constantinople- of Istanbul, politically correctly- continues to exist under the islamic protection.”
He forgets the fact that solely a century ago there were thousand hundreds of Greek inhabitants and now less than three thousand, mainly elder, have left, while the Greek people in  Imbros and Tenedos were literally eradicated. These are the “profits” of the …muslim protection!
He ended his speech with the following advice: “So, get over with it and become Greeks again, or at least Christian Orthodox.”
We return the advice in full and we cannot but wonder about the entirely schizophrenic disposition of someone who can be both marxist and… Christian!
N. G. Michaloliakos 
Secretary General of People’s Association-Golden Dawn
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